17-4 PH vs. 15-5 PH vs. 13-8 PH Stainless Steel

17-4 PH vs. 15-5 PH vs. 13-8 PH Stainless Steel: Similarities, Differences, and Applications

When selecting a high-strength stainless steel for demanding engineering applications, three precipitation-hardening grades frequently rise to the top: 17-4 PH,15-5 PH, and 13-8 PH. These martensitic age-hardenable alloys offer high strength, corrosion resistance, and versatile mechanical properties, making them valuable across a range of industries. 
 
While these grades share several important characteristics, differences in composition, processing methods, mechanical performance, and cost can influence material selection. This article examines the key similarities and differences among 17-4 PH,15-5 PH, and 13-8 PH, as well as fabrication considerations and typical applications. 

What Do 17-4 PH, 15-5 PH, and 13-8 PH Have in Common?

17-4 PH, 15-5 PH, and 13-8 PH are all iron-based stainless steels classified as martensitic age-hardenable grades. Unlike 400 series stainless steels, which achieve strength through quenching and tempering, these alloys are strengthened through an aging process. During aging, the material is held at a specific elevated temperature for a designated period, allowing precipitates to form within the microstructure, which heavily influence mechanical properties.

Typical supplied condition

These materials are typically supplied in the annealed condition, commonly identified as Condition A on material test certificates. This condition allows for subsequent aging treatments to achieve the desired mechanical characteristics, catering to a wide range of needs. Other commonly available aged conditions include 17-4 H1075, 17-4 H1150, and 15-5 H1025.

Significance of How PH Grades Are Named

These alloys follow a consistent naming convention in which the first number represents chromium content, while the second represents nickel content. For example, 17-4 contains 17% chromium and 4% nickel.

Cutting Considerations

One important consideration when using these alloys is the selection of the cutting method. Due to the potential for untempered martensite to form at cut edges, thermal cutting is not recommended for these grades. Instead, cold-cutting methods should be used, including:

• Bar saw cutting
• Waterjet cutting
• Band saw cutting
• Shearing

These methods help reduce brittleness and minimize the risk of fractures.

Fabrication and Weldability

When evaluated under similar conditions, all three alloys exhibit comparable machinability. Their fabrication and weldability characteristics are also broadly similar. However, welding can create localized variations in mechanical properties, potentially making post-weld heat treatment necessary to obtain desired performance.

What are the differences between 17-4 PH, 15-5 PH, and 13-8 PH Stainless Steel?

Precipitation Strengthening Mechanisms

The primary strengthening mechanism during aging differs between the grades.

• 17-4 PH and 15-5 PH develop copper-rich precipitates within the martensitic matrix.
• 13-8 PH uses aluminum rather than copper, forming nickel-aluminum precipitates.

Melting and Production Processes and Cost Considerations

The melting routes vary significantly among the three grades:


Application Scope

Application requirements often determine which alloy is selected.

17-4 PH is commonly used in less critical and industrial applications.

15-5 PH and 13-8 PH are typically chosen for more demanding applications that require enhanced material performance.

Enhanced-Machining Option: PRODEC® 17-4

Among these grades, 17-4 PH is unique in offering an enhanced-machining variant.

At Rolled Alloys, PRODEC® 17-4 is stocked to improve productivity and machining efficiency. It supports higher cutting speeds and feeds with reduced tool wear, and meets standard 17-4 PH ASTM, AMS, and ASME specifications.

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Mechanical Properties After Aging

The alloys exhibit a wide range of mechanical property profiles after aging treatments.

13-8 PH tends to provide superior ductility and improved transverse-direction performance.

13-8 PH Stainless Steel Typical Mechanical Properties*

PROPERTY A H950 H1000 H1050 H1100 H1150 H1150-M
UTS, ksi 16 0 225 215 190 160 145 130
0.2% YS, ksi 12;0 210 205 180 150 105 85
Elongation, % in 2" - 12 13 15 18 18 22
Hardness, Rockell C 33 47 45 43 35 35 32

*Small Diameter Bar Typical Values (1-3″); Data Source: Cleveland-Cliffs.

15-5 PH offers ductility levels that closely follow 13-8 PH. 

15-5 PH Stainless Steel Typical Mechanical Properties*

PROPERTY A H900 H925 H1025 H075 H1150 H1150-M
UTS, ksi 16;1 209 181 174 162 150 136
0.2% YS, ksi 14; 0 201 175 171 160 140 111
Elongation, % in 2" 8 10 12 12 13 15 19
Hardness, Rockell C 35 46 41 40 38 36 31

*Cold-flattened sheets and strip; Data Source: Cleveland-Cliffs.

17-4 PH generally exhibits lower ductility compared with the other two grades. 

17-4 PH Stainless Steel Typical Mechanical Properties*

PROPERTY A H900 H925 H1025 H075 H1150 H1150-M
UTS, ksi 16;0 210 200 185 175 160 150
0.2% YS, ksi 15; 5 200 195 170 165 150 130
Elongation, % in 2" 5 7 8 8 8 11 12
Hardness, Rockell C 35 45 43 38 37 35 33

*Cold-flattened sheets and strip; Data Source: Cleveland-Cliffs.

Which PH Stainless Steel Should You Choose?

Selecting between 17-4 PH, 15-5 PH, and 13-8 PH depends on the balance of mechanical properties, ductility, production requirements, machining considerations, and cost required for the application. While all three are precipitation-hardening stainless steels, their differences in melting practice and mechanical performance can influence which grade is the best fit.

Feature 17-4 PH 15-5 PH 13-8 PH
Primary Hardening Mechanism Copper-rich precipitates Copper-rich precipitates Nickel-Aluminum precipitates
Typical Production Method Air Melt Air Melt + VAR/ESR VIM + VAR/ESR
Relative Cost Lowest Medium Highest
Ductility Good Better Best
Typical Application Scope Industrial, Less Critical Applications Critical Applications High-Demanding Applications
Common Applications Industrial equipment, Valves, Pumps, Fasteners, Firearms, Aerospace, Space, and Defense components Aerospace, Defense, Space, Nuclear components, Fasteners, and high-strength structural applications Aerospace, Defense, Space, Nuclear components, Fasteners, and high-strength structural applications
Enhanced Machining Grade Available Yes (PRODEC® 17-4) No No

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